Writes: A bill that would make it easier to fix your electronics is. The bill's ascent is fueled by Apple's, which has placed a renewed focus on the fact that our electronics have become increasingly difficult to repair. Starting in 2019, would ban the sale of electronics that are designed 'in such a way as to prevent reasonable diagnostic or repair functions by an independent repair provider. Preventing reasonable diagnostic or repair functions includes permanently affixing a battery in a manner that makes it difficult or impossible to remove.' But with replaceable batteries musical birthday cards could enter a whole NEW ERA!!! With e-ink, cards could be used many times.
Just think of changing the cover art to a new JPG or even GIF. Next we allow the card licensee to sing and record or buy downloaded music from the card store. Of course your card will have internet access to assure no pirated content was used in the 'redeployment' of the card.
Can't have you singing any Stevie Wonder hits without paying for them. But you could piggyback on the Internet of Cards by placing current sports scores or a favorite news feed on the back or even inside. Sure, in awhile Apple will produce the Must Have iCards (and change them every six months) but two thirds of us can just keep handing the same cards back and forth every year. /sarcasm (I Hope).
From TFS: 'Preventing reasonable diagnostic or repair functions includes permanently affixing a battery in a manner that makes it difficult or impossible to remove.' There is some ambiguity, but the intent seems pretty obvious. Uh, no it's not, and this won't change a damn thing.
Using the term 'independent repair provider' even dictates that repairs will still not be something an end-user is authorized or allowed to do, and implies that consumers will still have to pay someone to change out a battery. No one 'repairs' a battery, they get replaced, which is all consumers are asking for. We used to have removable batteries.
Greed infected design, and now we do not. Enough of the ambiguity.
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Enough of the bullshit. Word it in black and white terms. Electronic devices with rechargeable batteries should be designed in such a way that they are easily replaceable by the end user. It's not hard to remove the ambiguity and put a stop to relentless greed that continues to fuck over the consumer. The 'independent' in 'independent repair provider' does imply that end-users should not require authorization, otherwise they would not be independent. Ability is another question, and where you say 'easily replaceable by the end user' you're putting some unnecessary limits on design. How many end-users are really comfortable with changing a CMOS battery in an average desktop?
I don't think all desktops need to be designed with externally accessible battery compartments. I guess that wouldn't count for your. What's the threshold for 'easily'?
Like, without tools? That means all our phones will be bulky again. I don't want a phone like that. I hated that design, and I'll continue to hate it. I don't mind the possibility that I'll have to take my phone into a shop so someone can disassemble it and pop in a new battery any more than I mind taking my car into the shop so I can have something repaired. If I wanted to learn how to do those things, I would, and indeed, I can. IFixit makes kits so you can do it yourself, and people do it.
So I don't know that your wording makes it any better, except to possibly require companies to make phones that I feel are terrible by design. I get that we don't agree on the design angle, but I don't want it legislated out of existence. A few years ago, my son's android tablet was having battery issues. It was 2 years old so the vendor wasn't supporting it. They offered to take it for about $60, examine it, and let me know what was happening to it.
Then, I could choose to fix it (for more money though they 'graciously' would deduct that $60 initial payment from the cost) or I could have it sent back. They couldn't guarantee that it wouldn't arrive back factory reset with all of my son's game data erased. I found the battery online for about $15 and tools to do the repair for about another $10.
Unfortunately, I needed to use the tools to pry the case open and I just couldn't get it done. I went to a repair shop and they were able to pry it open and replace the battery with the one I bought for $25. Even though I 'wasted' money on the tools, I still got the tablet fixed for less than what the manufacturer wanted. Avant PU Women Leather Black Handbags Shopping Large Tote LaBante Bag Bag Vegan London for Carryall Bordeaux which is all consumers are asking for. Bag Women London Black PU Bag Carryall LaBante Shopping Leather Handbags Large Bordeaux Avant Tote for Vegan I'm assuming you're basically talking about Cell Phones, if you are not, please take the rest as issues I have with this law anyways. 1) If Consumers DEMANDED replaceable batteries in phones (or other devices) they would be BUYING them. If your choice was between iPhone 8 and something like an LG V20, they would abandon iPhones for LG.
The problem is, that they want an iPhone first, battery second. THEY made the choice, and voted with their money.
If Apple was losing BILLIONS to people who WANT removable batteries as a PRIMARY feature, they would make an iPhone with Removable Battery. 2)If Consumers DEMANDED replaceable batteries over other features like Water Proof/Resistant devices, then they would be BUYING them. Since it is makes devices MORE expensive to have WaterProof and Replaceable batteries than one or the other, and people are choosing lesser expensive single option devices (Waterproof, no replaceable battery vs replaceable battery and don't drop in the pool) the the market has spoken. 3) In almost ALL categories, there ARE options for having those features, while giving up others, and the relative price points for each are such that the Market is making cost/feature analysis as part of their buying choices is already available.
Conclusion: A law like the one proposes removes choice and replaces it with draconian rules that the Market has ALREADY rejected with the voting dollars. This is the problem with the whole 'There ought to be a law' people, is that they want what they want, but are UNWILLING to do it for themselves. This is the choice of the Consumer, not the state. I dunno, i'd rather government take a step back from directly interfering in how companies design and market their products - obviously with health, safety, and fraud concerns withstanding.
With regulations like this where does it end? It sucks that 'voting with your dollars' doesn't really work when all the manufacturers pull the same shenanigans; but having mommy government step in to dictate these things is an even worse idea. It's feel good legislation at its finest, but real world consequences intended or not are being ignored.
What's 'reasonable'? Yep, it is that kind of very vague language in law (especially more and more in today's laws coming thought State and Federal), that are so broadly worded, that it can cause problems, some in VERY distinct ways. Another example of this, is the ATF about to redo regulations that pretty much define 'machine' gun which is written as law. They are about to basically make new law (saving our congress critters from actually having to go on record and vote).but essentially, they are being pressured into going after bump stocks.
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The problems is, they aren't specifically mentioning bump stocks or precisely defining them. They are trying to broadly work it as 'any device that increases the rate of fire'. Well for one thing, there is not defined base level of 'rate of fire'.
That could mean ANY modification to a semi-auto weapon, like just putting in a lighter trigger for competition shooting.that allows you to increase your rate of fire. Hell, your finger could be considered a problem, in that it is pretty easy to hold an AR loosely enough to let the recoil hit your finger quickly and fire like you can with a bump stock. To that note.high capacity magazines could come under fire, in that having larger capacities allow you to fire faster since you don't have to change more often. That's just one example.but we need to force our legislators to quit working laws so broadly.
Make them more precise, and when a new thing comes along, rather than trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole, come up with a new damned law, or pass real legislation to change things. Don't just word it broadly, and then allow some PU Black Women London Bag LaBante Handbags Avant Leather Shopping Vegan Carryall for Large Bag Bordeaux Tote UNELECTED bureaucratic enforcement agency define what things are. Just because you may like it one way, doesn't mean it won't come to bite you in the ass on another topic you do care about. Not trolling: can you link to info or post your story on this? I'm curious (regulatory stupidity is interesting) and I'm sure others will be also.
Hell, I just learned this morning that sex with anyone that you're not married to is technically illegal in North Carolina. NCGS 14-189: 'FORNICATION AND ADULTERY.' It's a misdemeanor to have sex with someone who is not your spouse with no exceptions if you are unmarried, though apparently also unconstitutional to enforce it in that manner. May as well learn ab. 'Reasonable diagnostic or repair functions by an independent repair provider' to me implies that your typical Joe doesn't have to be capable of doing it, but if you take it along to a suitablely equipped store they can do so for a nominal fee without damage to any additional parts other than easily replaceable on-time-snap-fix connectors.
Basically, that's going to mean an end to simply replacing a proper chassis with glue, but after that it's all down to the interpretation of the letter and spirit of the. The last time this came up on Slashdot, the objection to forcing replaceable batteries was that having fixed batteries allows for unusual battery shapes and less concern regarding seals so that engineers can design thinner phones. You know what? Not good enough. If it's so important to have such a thin phone, then the manufacturers need to be required by law to take back their product at the end of its life cycle and REcycle. I'd argue this would be an expensive but good idea anyway, because 'the environment' isn't just a thing for tree-huggers, we all need it.
Why does the government have to limit my choice? To protect everyone else who is not an idiot.
I feel sorry for you that the stupid government doesn't allow you to buy toasters that burn down your house. Or drugs that poison you.
Or foods that make you sick. It's such a shame really.
But if you put your mind to it, I'm sure you can find ways to burn down your house, poison yourself or make yourself sick despite the nanny government trying to protect the rest of us from being f.ked by corporations. I picked a phone for being waterproof, and I think all of those have non-removable batteries. Waterproof was more important to me than a removable battery. Why should my choice be illegal because you don't like it? Are there no phones with removable batteries? I'm failing to see the issue here.
Because (a) you can have both, it's just the manufacturers have no reason to do that as it means they can sell you a whole new phone when the battery degrades, and (b) we live in the same world, and waste is a thing that affects all of us. I picked a phone for being waterproof, and I think all of those have non-removable batteries.
Waterproof was more important to me than a removable battery. Why should my choice be illegal because you don't like it? Are there no phones with removable batteries?
I'm failing to see the issue here. The Galaxy S5 has a user replaceable battery and has the same IP67 rating as the Pixel 2 and the iPhone 8. I just had to replace a screen on a Nexus 6 which has the back glued on and it has no IP rating. Your argument holds no water (pun intended).
Try easily replacing the battery in an iPhone, iPad, Kindle, MacBook, etc. I don't think it will affect tech design tooooo much. While TFA picked up on the battery part, the thrust of the bill is more about compelling OEMs to supply the necessary information and parts to enable independent repair shops to fix things.
To not exclude competition by hoarding information and parts. So I think the test of 'reasonableness' of repair would really be framed in the context of, 'is it designed such that it is reasonable for a trained, professional, and informed private repair shop to d. '.Original manufacturers of digital electronic products sold on or after January 1, 2019, in Washington state are prohibited from designing or manufacturing digital electronic products in such a way as to prevent reasonable diagnostic or repair functions by an independent repair provider. Preventing reasonable diagnostic or repair functions includes permanently affixing a battery in a manner that makes it difficult or impossible to remove.' None of the phone makers do this.
As it is now, their batte. It took me about 15 minutes to replace an 'unreplaceable' iphone battery and the kit came with all the tools for 25USD.
It's fine if you don't like it. Just don't buy it. Why are Americans so bent on needing laws to prohibit anything they don't like even if they're not subject to it? Also note, this law does nothing to the auto industry. My understanding from all the voices chattering on about owners' rights is that they're the prime offenders. So why is this getting high praise?
A phone with a reasonably rep. 2) 'Digital electronic product' means a handheld or portable electronic device containing a microprocessor and flat panel computer monitor originally manufactured for distribution and sale in the United States for general consumer purchase. Digital electronic product includes but is not limited to smartphones, electronic reading devices, laptop computers, and tablets. So no, it will not outlaw musical greeting cards. Unless they come with a flat panel monitor. It seems like it will also not outlaw medical or industrial devices, as it says 'for general consumer purchase'. Are you going to repair a one-use $2 greetings card?
It would be considered disposable. Are you going to consider a $700 iPhone disposable? As such, the definition would be quite simple to lay down. However, every gadget I buy seems to have a replaceable battery.
Huawei 4G Wifi Router? $20 GPS tracker for my car? $20 in-car dashcam? $10 Blueooth keyboard/trackpad? XBox controllers? Pretty much if it has a battery, I can replace it. People know what they're getting into when they buy a phone.
LOL no they don't, most people are dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to technology, all they know is it's shiny and new and they can play Candy Crush (or whatever) and watch movies on it, they have no idea what's under the hood and they give little-to-no thought as to whether the battery can be replaced or not or anything else service-related. Besides which do you think marketers want people to care about things like that? Hell no, marketers want people to throw the thing away in a year and buy a brand n.
You don't replace with circuit breakers? Sometimes such things are done as a fail safe and the device is supposed to be externally fused at a lower level. In this case, the fuse is there to protect from users doing things they shouldn't. I've seen this design used to protect from reverse polarity accidents, where a cleverly placed diode will cause the internal fuse to blow before the device can be destroyed. Also, in high vibration and environmentally uncontrolled environments, sometimes a soldered.
Oh,.NOW. you want replaceable batteries when your precious iphone craps out. Where was this bill when the save files in my SNES cartridges started vanishing?! I know this was intended as a bit of a joke post, but SNES cart batteries are actually reasonably replaceable. They're just normal coin cells in a holder. Though to be fair the battery is typically soldered to the holder. But the holder is not near any critical components or pathways, so unless you have terrible hand tremors it's not hard to remove with low risk.
Source: I have replaced them using my rudimentary electronics skills. The most annoying part of it is having to order a special screwdriver bit to.